The fact that Badench had Gove behind her was enough for me, give me Jenrick any day. However I'll never vote Tory again after the shambles that was Sunak, he was absolutely clueless. It's Reform for me whatever happens in the Tory party. Whoever the new leader is I hope they're strong enough to put that dreadful robot Starmer back in his box.
I think this is the way the country wants to align politically - the right wing of the Tories doing a deal with Farage . I have to swallow hard , when saying that , because I swore I would never vote Tory again but with the right elements coming together , it could be the practical way forward . Badenoch is charismatic but has vowed never to work with Reform - big mistake - too much ego !
i liked Kemi until the moment she stabbed Boris in the back. Now i couldnt vote for her. Jenrick resigned on principle and i agree with the things he is saying. He was a remainer though. I am no longer a member of the conservative party after my vote for Liz Truss was dismissed with her being forced out of office. I agreed with her budget and am terrified of today's budget which is a lot worse than that. Starmer wont be forced out though will he!!!
I’d say it is Labours ham fisted way of trying to bury bad news at a time when all the MSM will be talking about the Budget. Call me cynical if you like. I have just listened to Liz Truss and she quite rightly questions how something like this has stayed quiet for so long when the security forces would have uncovered this evidence within days of the Southport tragedy. I hope those who have a voice don’t let this one go away and Starmer and his friends are exposed.
Where has he “slandered” Tommy exactly? They have the same goal but different processes of achieving it. Don’t throw away our only chance or getting a decent PM by splitting hairs.
Who has he sacked exactly? Tommy Robinson was known as being a Far Right working class leader for years. He has gained in respectability recently and it's hard not to sympathise with him but he has never organised himself politically to get himself into Parliament. Reform has. They are going the right way about achieving what Tommy wants. Support them or give in to Keir Starmer and the hell he is creating. It's a simple choice.
Since when has Tommy been far right? He’s campaigned against extremism all his adult life. You really need to get a grip. And if you don’t know who has been shut out of Reform for endorsing Tommy you really haven’t been listening.
Now Nigel doesn’t want to deport our mass of unintegrated immigrants and doesn’t think Islam is a problem.
What do you think would be the right way forward then? Communism?! We are fast heading that way. If Reform and the REAL Tories can eventually find a suitable path forward for this country and it’s indigenous people then I’ll be fully behind it. On its own I don’t believe Reform could ever be voted into office with s strong majority and we certainly never want to see another Labour government after this current shower of shit and the extensive damage which will have been wrought by the next GE therefore Reform/Tory aligning together will be our last and only hope of being able to salvage anything from this unholy mess and work on trying to repair our once great country. It’s either that or communism and I know exactly what I will be voting for🩵💙
Unfortunately UKIP have had their day and without Nigel the completely imploded. Richard Tice is NOT a politician, neither elected nor otherwise and he never will be. He is a businessman, Nigel and Lee are the powerful ones so Richard is actually irrelevant as far as I’m concerned. I would be more interested to hear from the Chairman of Reform (whose name escapes me) as he talks a lot of sense and it’s his money playing a huge part in funding Reform. We have to look at the reality of politics and as long as we have a ‘first past the post’ system then Reform/Tory coming together really us out only hope for the future, particularly for the good of our younger and future generations. Nigel and Lee are the only two politicians with a backbone of iron and, assuming Jenrick prevails on Friday, then he is bigger than his own ego and open to positive change. The fact that he was a Remoaner is irrelevant as that’s now long behind us, going forward the rescue and survival of our country is really all that matters otherwise communism will overtake everything. BLiar and his commie globalist elite clowns have been planning this since 1997 so it’s going to take one hell of a job to start reversing nearly 30yrs of pure corruption and one party alone will not be able to do it. We must have the right people and if that means Reform/Tory joining forces then with the right people we WILL be able to finally start the REAL fight back. Kemi Badenock is passionate with a fire in her belly but I lost trust in her when she refused to tear up the excessive EU laws and restrictions which Sunak wanted
I really do feel your pain, I’m 2yrs older then you but I don’t have children myself but we have a lot of children in our family, one just 6wks old and when I looked into that little girl’s face the first time I saw her, it brought tears to my eyes wondering what the future holds for her in the cruel crazy world we currently inhabit. I want the best future possible for that new baby girl and all the other generations in our family and all those to come because the thought of any of them facing a future under communism or living in a Muslim state absolutely absolutely appalls and terrifies me. We have been very lucky to have grown up in a peaceful country without war but we can now clearly see the dangers which lie ahead.
I had forgotten Ben Habib and I have never disagreed with anything he’s ever said - he is passionate about our country the same as the huge majority of Reform. I have never liked Richard Tice and neither do I trust him, never been sure exactly why but I have always felt there was something very unpleasant about him and his comments about Tommy Robinson and his supporters are both unforgivable and unacceptable.
I have always been a member of the Tory party but after their shambolic behaviour since ousting Boris and the corrupt GE, I subsequently voted Reform and cancelled my Tory party membership as soon as the results were announced. I have been in in two minds of whether to join Reform but I’ve been waiting for the dust to settle from the GE and the results of the Tory leadership before making a firm decision. The local elections next May will be a true snapshot of how the country is really feeling and I’m expecting a huge majority of those red seats across the whole country to turn turquoise (and/or) royal blue.
The trouble is I have a difficulty in believing most politicians now, especially the Tories, who seem to come to the table with a noise or two after the event.
Or I am mistaken and doing Jennick wrong and that he was saying this at the time when the SStarmer Troopers were knocking down doors and his publicity teams diverting a gullible media.
All sides seem to forget we are not necessarily stupid and can remember things...
Jenrick deals with real issues that concern the people, doesn’t change his mind lightly or appear to be a show off. I have much more confidence in him than Badenoch.
If the UK Government had an ounce of intelligence they would make an International Law that if a immigrant is sentenced to Jail they are instantly deported to prison in their homeland
And there you have it! We all knew at the time that his was no “ordinary” random attack and we knew the perpetrator was not a white British person yet all we have been accused of is being right wing extremists just for saying what we can plainly see and understand.
The fact that he refuses point blank to work with Farage and Reform suggests he is only serious about restoring the Tories back to their former power. If he were serious about dealing with the country's problems he would be more than willing to work across party lines. It's just more 'uni party' blather.
It is kemi who has refused point blank to work with Reform. Jenrick has not said that at all - he has stated that he is open to working with them which is one of the reasons why he is in the lead. The only way to move forward and avoid LieBour ever getting into power again is by coming together with shared goals because there is going to be one hell of a clearing up job to do come 2029 (or before please god🙏🏼). At the end of the day it will be down to the electorate so let us not lose sight of the fact that it was the result of a huge majority of the public not bothering to vote in July who put SS Starmer into office😱🤬
Interesting video published on Craig Houston Talks To Channel. If this turns out to be correct, in which it's starting to look that way, then it could be quite an interesting few days.
Let's assume we believe what Jenrrick is saying, the majority of conservative MPs will vote against leaving the ECHR before they sit on the left side and are anti Brexit/rejoiners. Also Cameron wrote into law the percentage of our GDP we have to give out in foreign aid so again all the left side with vote against any change in that law.
Which is exactly why we must have an extremely strong leadership next time with an iron backbone who is not afraid to defy such objections and do the right things for our country, no matter how unpalatable or unpopular other politicians find it - in a real democracy irbid the voice of the people who matter and it is the job of the politicians to carry out our mandate. Just remember how reviled Margaret Thatcher often was, yet she refused to be brow beaten and she got the job done, for the good of our country and NOT for her own personal agenda or financial gain. Love her or hate her, she made Britain a great country - until BLiar came along and set the destruction in motion…🤬
The fact that Badench had Gove behind her was enough for me, give me Jenrick any day. However I'll never vote Tory again after the shambles that was Sunak, he was absolutely clueless. It's Reform for me whatever happens in the Tory party. Whoever the new leader is I hope they're strong enough to put that dreadful robot Starmer back in his box.
Totally agree. It’s got to be Reform
I think this is the way the country wants to align politically - the right wing of the Tories doing a deal with Farage . I have to swallow hard , when saying that , because I swore I would never vote Tory again but with the right elements coming together , it could be the practical way forward . Badenoch is charismatic but has vowed never to work with Reform - big mistake - too much ego !
i liked Kemi until the moment she stabbed Boris in the back. Now i couldnt vote for her. Jenrick resigned on principle and i agree with the things he is saying. He was a remainer though. I am no longer a member of the conservative party after my vote for Liz Truss was dismissed with her being forced out of office. I agreed with her budget and am terrified of today's budget which is a lot worse than that. Starmer wont be forced out though will he!!!
Totally agree
I’d say it is Labours ham fisted way of trying to bury bad news at a time when all the MSM will be talking about the Budget. Call me cynical if you like. I have just listened to Liz Truss and she quite rightly questions how something like this has stayed quiet for so long when the security forces would have uncovered this evidence within days of the Southport tragedy. I hope those who have a voice don’t let this one go away and Starmer and his friends are exposed.
Not so keen on Nigel who slanders Tommy and ‘us lot’.
Where has he “slandered” Tommy exactly? They have the same goal but different processes of achieving it. Don’t throw away our only chance or getting a decent PM by splitting hairs.
Calls him far right. Blames him for the riots. Sacks anyone who supports Tommy. Are you blind?
Who has he sacked exactly? Tommy Robinson was known as being a Far Right working class leader for years. He has gained in respectability recently and it's hard not to sympathise with him but he has never organised himself politically to get himself into Parliament. Reform has. They are going the right way about achieving what Tommy wants. Support them or give in to Keir Starmer and the hell he is creating. It's a simple choice.
Since when has Tommy been far right? He’s campaigned against extremism all his adult life. You really need to get a grip. And if you don’t know who has been shut out of Reform for endorsing Tommy you really haven’t been listening.
Now Nigel doesn’t want to deport our mass of unintegrated immigrants and doesn’t think Islam is a problem.
Thank you for telling the truth what is happening.
Reform will not do mass deportation.
Look what Richard Tice said about the people on the march Saturday 26/10/24.
Conservative, Labour, Liberal and Reform are not for the British people.
What do you think would be the right way forward then? Communism?! We are fast heading that way. If Reform and the REAL Tories can eventually find a suitable path forward for this country and it’s indigenous people then I’ll be fully behind it. On its own I don’t believe Reform could ever be voted into office with s strong majority and we certainly never want to see another Labour government after this current shower of shit and the extensive damage which will have been wrought by the next GE therefore Reform/Tory aligning together will be our last and only hope of being able to salvage anything from this unholy mess and work on trying to repair our once great country. It’s either that or communism and I know exactly what I will be voting for🩵💙
I hope you are right for the future of young people.
I voted Reform in the last election, after listening to Richard Tice on Sunday I may not be in the next election.
On 6/11/24 I will be going to a Reform meeting I will air my views then.
UKIP are the only party to save us, and they are not a racist party as Gerrard Batten wife is Filipino.
Unfortunately UKIP have had their day and without Nigel the completely imploded. Richard Tice is NOT a politician, neither elected nor otherwise and he never will be. He is a businessman, Nigel and Lee are the powerful ones so Richard is actually irrelevant as far as I’m concerned. I would be more interested to hear from the Chairman of Reform (whose name escapes me) as he talks a lot of sense and it’s his money playing a huge part in funding Reform. We have to look at the reality of politics and as long as we have a ‘first past the post’ system then Reform/Tory coming together really us out only hope for the future, particularly for the good of our younger and future generations. Nigel and Lee are the only two politicians with a backbone of iron and, assuming Jenrick prevails on Friday, then he is bigger than his own ego and open to positive change. The fact that he was a Remoaner is irrelevant as that’s now long behind us, going forward the rescue and survival of our country is really all that matters otherwise communism will overtake everything. BLiar and his commie globalist elite clowns have been planning this since 1997 so it’s going to take one hell of a job to start reversing nearly 30yrs of pure corruption and one party alone will not be able to do it. We must have the right people and if that means Reform/Tory joining forces then with the right people we WILL be able to finally start the REAL fight back. Kemi Badenock is passionate with a fire in her belly but I lost trust in her when she refused to tear up the excessive EU laws and restrictions which Sunak wanted
We will see what happens, Zia Yusuf is the biggest donor, and the only Reform member I trust is Ben Habib.
And the update on UKIP is a lot of British people are now joining and donating.
Hopefully I will get answers next week at our reform party meeting.
Nigel Farage is the same age as me, so we are at the end of our lives.
I am worried about my children and grandchildren, because I am fed up with these uni party's lying to us.
I really do feel your pain, I’m 2yrs older then you but I don’t have children myself but we have a lot of children in our family, one just 6wks old and when I looked into that little girl’s face the first time I saw her, it brought tears to my eyes wondering what the future holds for her in the cruel crazy world we currently inhabit. I want the best future possible for that new baby girl and all the other generations in our family and all those to come because the thought of any of them facing a future under communism or living in a Muslim state absolutely absolutely appalls and terrifies me. We have been very lucky to have grown up in a peaceful country without war but we can now clearly see the dangers which lie ahead.
I had forgotten Ben Habib and I have never disagreed with anything he’s ever said - he is passionate about our country the same as the huge majority of Reform. I have never liked Richard Tice and neither do I trust him, never been sure exactly why but I have always felt there was something very unpleasant about him and his comments about Tommy Robinson and his supporters are both unforgivable and unacceptable.
I have always been a member of the Tory party but after their shambolic behaviour since ousting Boris and the corrupt GE, I subsequently voted Reform and cancelled my Tory party membership as soon as the results were announced. I have been in in two minds of whether to join Reform but I’ve been waiting for the dust to settle from the GE and the results of the Tory leadership before making a firm decision. The local elections next May will be a true snapshot of how the country is really feeling and I’m expecting a huge majority of those red seats across the whole country to turn turquoise (and/or) royal blue.
I am sorry I cannot reply now I work nights, Try and speak later.
Take care.
What did Tice say please ? I missed it.
It is on You Tube on GB news with Camilla Tominey
And yesterday TCW had a article on this and people are not happy with him.
Thank you, I'll have a look.
When you watch what Richard Tice said read the comments.
Listened to it and read the comments and left one myself. Who the heck do we vote for now ?
You need to subscribe to TCW we have great views and chats on there, it keeps me sane.
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The trouble is I have a difficulty in believing most politicians now, especially the Tories, who seem to come to the table with a noise or two after the event.
Or I am mistaken and doing Jennick wrong and that he was saying this at the time when the SStarmer Troopers were knocking down doors and his publicity teams diverting a gullible media.
All sides seem to forget we are not necessarily stupid and can remember things...
Jenrick deals with real issues that concern the people, doesn’t change his mind lightly or appear to be a show off. I have much more confidence in him than Badenoch.
If the UK Government had an ounce of intelligence they would make an International Law that if a immigrant is sentenced to Jail they are instantly deported to prison in their homeland
What’s wrong with the Bill of Rights 1689?
Or the Magna Carta 1215
Yes
How can he make these promises to us about removing illegal immigrants when a lot of the ministers can block him,just like the Rwanda deal.
https://youtu.be/ynPGEQ6VUbc?si=-cZbxvAGf2Mxp2l_
Has anyone else seen this video about the lad being related to a top political figure in Rwanda. His dad's uncle apparently.
And there you have it! We all knew at the time that his was no “ordinary” random attack and we knew the perpetrator was not a white British person yet all we have been accused of is being right wing extremists just for saying what we can plainly see and understand.
The fact that he refuses point blank to work with Farage and Reform suggests he is only serious about restoring the Tories back to their former power. If he were serious about dealing with the country's problems he would be more than willing to work across party lines. It's just more 'uni party' blather.
It is kemi who has refused point blank to work with Reform. Jenrick has not said that at all - he has stated that he is open to working with them which is one of the reasons why he is in the lead. The only way to move forward and avoid LieBour ever getting into power again is by coming together with shared goals because there is going to be one hell of a clearing up job to do come 2029 (or before please god🙏🏼). At the end of the day it will be down to the electorate so let us not lose sight of the fact that it was the result of a huge majority of the public not bothering to vote in July who put SS Starmer into office😱🤬
Conservative, Labour, Liberal and Reform will say anything to get our vote.
https://youtu.be/ynPGEQ6VUbc?si=-cZbxvAGf2Mxp2l_
Interesting video published on Craig Houston Talks To Channel. If this turns out to be correct, in which it's starting to look that way, then it could be quite an interesting few days.
Let's assume we believe what Jenrrick is saying, the majority of conservative MPs will vote against leaving the ECHR before they sit on the left side and are anti Brexit/rejoiners. Also Cameron wrote into law the percentage of our GDP we have to give out in foreign aid so again all the left side with vote against any change in that law.
Which is exactly why we must have an extremely strong leadership next time with an iron backbone who is not afraid to defy such objections and do the right things for our country, no matter how unpalatable or unpopular other politicians find it - in a real democracy irbid the voice of the people who matter and it is the job of the politicians to carry out our mandate. Just remember how reviled Margaret Thatcher often was, yet she refused to be brow beaten and she got the job done, for the good of our country and NOT for her own personal agenda or financial gain. Love her or hate her, she made Britain a great country - until BLiar came along and set the destruction in motion…🤬